A chat with Ed Asner
—by Nick Thomas
Don’t expect Ed Asner’s name to fade from casting lists any time soon. With a variety of current and upcoming projects, 86-year-old Asner remains as busy and versatile as ever.
It’s a trend that follows a lifetime of dedication to his craft, playing bishops, doctors, judges, cops, cowboys, professors, villains, and hundreds more film, television, and stage characters as well as voice roles.
“When I came out to Hollywood in 1961, I was determined not to be typecast,” said Asner from his office in Los Angeles. “My agent and I worked assiduously ever since to make sure that never happened.”
Nevertheless, Asner is still widely recognized as Lou Grant, the TV news director and newspaper editor, respectively, on “The Mary Tyler Moore Show” and its spinoff series “Lou Grant.” In fact, five of his seven Primetime Emmys were awarded for the character.
Yet he modestly brushes aside any reference to his hefty collection of the iconic gold-plated figures that feature a woman with pointed wings holding an atom (representing the arts and sciences).
“They’re distributed throughout the house,” Asner said of his statuettes. “Those prongs are really sharp. I just have to be sure I don’t sit on one.”
Before arriving in Hollywood from his native Kansas City, young Ed found one of his first television jobs in the New York anthology drama series, “Studio One.” In 1957, he appeared in the episode “The Night America Trembled,” a recreation of the reputed panic caused to some listeners by the Orson Welles’ 1938 radio broadcast of H.G. Wells’ “War of the Worlds.”
“Imagine being in the studio with Welles for those broadcasts,” noted Asner of Welles’ “Mercury Theatre on the Air” radio dramas. “I’ve heard he would stay in bed and roll out just in time to make it to the studio so his voice would be as deep as he could get it.”
The 60s brought movie roles alongside the likes of Boris Karloff, John Wayne, and Elvis Presley. Asner worked with Elvis twice, in 1962’s “Kid Galahad” and “Change of Habit,” in 1969, the latter starring Mary Tyler Moore who would soon rocket to fame in her own show with Asner.
“I actually never saw Mary on the film because we had different scenes. I fleetingly watched her on the Dick Van Dyke Show, but never thought she would turn into the talented powerhouse that she became.”
After working with Moore on her comedy series, Asner took the lead in his own show in 1977 – a rare network move to spinoff a 1-hour drama series from a half-hour comedy. But “Lou Grant” eventually found an audience and good ratings during its 5-season run. The first season was released on DVD in May and the second season is due for release this summer.
“I didn’t base the character on any particular journalist,” noted Asner. “I looked to my older brothers for their largeness and for their teasing and doubting qualities. For the hour show that dealt with more serious issues, I began to look more into myself for inspiration.”
When the series was suddenly canceled in 1982, Asner believed it was due to his political views and activism, including a statement he made as the Screen Actors Guild president regarding U.S. policy in Central America at the time. And despite his left-leaning philosophy, he even managed to rankle liberal Hollywood.
“Even the liberal producers and directors were loath to employ me for a while because I could affect 50% of their audience and alienate some sponsors,” he said.
Today Asner still speaks out on social issues of concern and has numerous film and TV projects lined up for the coming year. And he continues to perform his one-man show, “A Man and His Prostate.”
“I’ve had wonderful audience reception,” he said. “I’m doing several nights in Chicago in September and more next year in New York and Florida.”
When asked to sum up his career, Asner offered a one-word description, “eclectic,” adding “I was always happy with the variety of roles I was able to garner. But I’m not through yet.”
Nick Thomas teaches at Auburn University at Montgomery and has written features, columns, and interviews for over 600 magazines and newspapers. See www.tinseltowntalks.com.